Is Torah only for the Jews?
Are those laws, commandments, and statutes only for the Jewish people?
If they were for the Gentiles too, then why isn't the rest being followed?
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
HE did not blot out HIS Laws, on that tree, HE blotted out philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world.
So, Torah is only for those who except YHVH as their god, but the ordinances that were hung upon the tree were those traditions, philosophy and vain deceit of men.
Monday, June 24, 2013
What a thorn
The Rabbinical Jews were going from city to
city, telling the Gentiles, that they could not be saved, UNLESS they FIRST be
circumcised and follow the Law.
This has been misinterpreted I think, to the
point where people teach that ALL a Gentile has to do is:
abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.
But if we read this in context,
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Paul and the other Apostles only taught from Tanankh, seeing how there was NO "New Testament" to teach from, at the time.
We know also, from the context, that Paul followed the Law, and we also know that he told his listeners to emulate the way he lived. 1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
Act 21:22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
Act 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
Act 21:24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
As to circumcision, Paul never taught against circumcision, for he himself circumcised Timothy, so that the Jews couldn't point out that Timothy was circumcised by them.
Act 16:3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek
What Paul taught on circumcision, was that it was not required as a prerequisite to salvation.
To even become a follower of The Way, or be a disciple, first the Jew or Gentile had to "confess" Yeshua as their master and king.
If we look that up, in the context of it's usage however, to confess is to make a covenant.
The relevant covenant is the 10 Commandments.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul and the other Apostles only taught from Tanankh, seeing how there was NO "New Testament" to teach from, at the time.
We know also, from the context, that Paul followed the Law, and we also know that he told his listeners to emulate the way he lived. 1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
Act 21:22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
Act 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
Act 21:24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
As to circumcision, Paul never taught against circumcision, for he himself circumcised Timothy, so that the Jews couldn't point out that Timothy was circumcised by them.
Act 16:3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek
What Paul taught on circumcision, was that it was not required as a prerequisite to salvation.
To even become a follower of The Way, or be a disciple, first the Jew or Gentile had to "confess" Yeshua as their master and king.
If we look that up, in the context of it's usage however, to confess is to make a covenant.
The relevant covenant is the 10 Commandments.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul and the other Apostles only taught from Tanankh, seeing how there was NO "New Testament" to teach from, at the time.
We know also, from the context, that Paul followed the Law, and we also know that he told his listeners to emulate the way he lived. 1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
Act 21:22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
Act 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
Act 21:24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
As to circumcision, Paul never taught against circumcision, for he himself circumcised Timothy, so that the Jews couldn't point out that Timothy was circumcised by them.
Act 16:3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek
What Paul taught on circumcision, was that it was not required as a prerequisite to salvation.
To even become a follower of The Way, or be a disciple, first the Jew or Gentile had to "confess" Yeshua as their master and king.
If we look that up, in the context of it's usage however, to confess is to make a covenant.
The relevant covenant is the 10 Commandments.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.
But if we read this in context,
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Paul and the other Apostles only taught from Tanankh, seeing how there was NO "New Testament" to teach from, at the time.
We know also, from the context, that Paul followed the Law, and we also know that he told his listeners to emulate the way he lived. 1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
Act 21:22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
Act 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
Act 21:24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
As to circumcision, Paul never taught against circumcision, for he himself circumcised Timothy, so that the Jews couldn't point out that Timothy was circumcised by them.
Act 16:3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek
What Paul taught on circumcision, was that it was not required as a prerequisite to salvation.
To even become a follower of The Way, or be a disciple, first the Jew or Gentile had to "confess" Yeshua as their master and king.
If we look that up, in the context of it's usage however, to confess is to make a covenant.
The relevant covenant is the 10 Commandments.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul and the other Apostles only taught from Tanankh, seeing how there was NO "New Testament" to teach from, at the time.
We know also, from the context, that Paul followed the Law, and we also know that he told his listeners to emulate the way he lived. 1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
Act 21:22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
Act 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
Act 21:24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
As to circumcision, Paul never taught against circumcision, for he himself circumcised Timothy, so that the Jews couldn't point out that Timothy was circumcised by them.
Act 16:3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek
What Paul taught on circumcision, was that it was not required as a prerequisite to salvation.
To even become a follower of The Way, or be a disciple, first the Jew or Gentile had to "confess" Yeshua as their master and king.
If we look that up, in the context of it's usage however, to confess is to make a covenant.
The relevant covenant is the 10 Commandments.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul and the other Apostles only taught from Tanankh, seeing how there was NO "New Testament" to teach from, at the time.
We know also, from the context, that Paul followed the Law, and we also know that he told his listeners to emulate the way he lived. 1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
Act 21:22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
Act 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
Act 21:24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
As to circumcision, Paul never taught against circumcision, for he himself circumcised Timothy, so that the Jews couldn't point out that Timothy was circumcised by them.
Act 16:3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek
What Paul taught on circumcision, was that it was not required as a prerequisite to salvation.
To even become a follower of The Way, or be a disciple, first the Jew or Gentile had to "confess" Yeshua as their master and king.
If we look that up, in the context of it's usage however, to confess is to make a covenant.
The relevant covenant is the 10 Commandments.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Deu 4:13]] KJV* And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
So, what else were they learning every Sabbath, with Moses being read to them?The answer is the rest of the instructions on how to live obedient lives in YHVH.
The writer of Hebrews says this too
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
*[[Heb 6:1-3]] KJV* Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Paul often had to deal with the Gentiles though, that were going back into their pagan ways, and not moving forward into the meat of the teachings.
Trinity?
Why is it, that the Father is not listed here?
Luk 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
So, to speak a word against the Son of man (Yeshua, who was born of a woman, a seed of Abraham, a little lower than angels, in order to taste death).
But to blasphemeth (vilify or lacking in reverence or proper respect) the holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven.
But notice, nothing is said about speaking against the Father.
Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Is it possible, the verse here is speaking of the Father, who is a Spirit?
Mat 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom_8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
1Pe 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: 1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Yet we have these verses:
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Interestingly, in the above verse, 1Jn5:7-8
When we look at the original words here, we see this:
Holy Ghost, is the same as saying holy Spirit (pneuma= a current of air, that is, breath)
Also here:
Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Holy Ghost here, is the same word as [led by the Spirit]
So, this verse is also read as:
Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Spirit returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Just as 1Jn 5:7-8 and Mat 28:19
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit:
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Did you notice though, in 1Jn 5:7-8
The Spirit is listed as bearing witness, both in heaven and Earth?
Luk 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
So, to speak a word against the Son of man (Yeshua, who was born of a woman, a seed of Abraham, a little lower than angels, in order to taste death).
But to blasphemeth (vilify or lacking in reverence or proper respect) the holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven.
But notice, nothing is said about speaking against the Father.
Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Is it possible, the verse here is speaking of the Father, who is a Spirit?
Mat 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom_8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
1Pe 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: 1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Yet we have these verses:
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Interestingly, in the above verse, 1Jn5:7-8
When we look at the original words here, we see this:
Holy Ghost, is the same as saying holy Spirit (pneuma= a current of air, that is, breath)
Also here:
Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Holy Ghost here, is the same word as [led by the Spirit]
So, this verse is also read as:
Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Spirit returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Just as 1Jn 5:7-8 and Mat 28:19
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit:
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Did you notice though, in 1Jn 5:7-8
The Spirit is listed as bearing witness, both in heaven and Earth?
Temple?
Imagine for a moment,
The Vatican sponsors the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem.
A peace accord is signed, between the Muslim and Jewish peoples, administered by the Pope.
The building project is going forth rapidly. And soon to be opened.
The holy objects are gathered, and sanctified according to the Law.
The red heifer is slaughtered, and its ashes gathered.
Then a huge earthquake shakes Italy. The Vatican is destroyed, and the Pope declares that since he is the vicar of Christ, and god on Earth, declares that he will reside at the Jerusalem Temple.
The Vatican sponsors the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem.
A peace accord is signed, between the Muslim and Jewish peoples, administered by the Pope.
The building project is going forth rapidly. And soon to be opened.
The holy objects are gathered, and sanctified according to the Law.
The red heifer is slaughtered, and its ashes gathered.
Then a huge earthquake shakes Italy. The Vatican is destroyed, and the Pope declares that since he is the vicar of Christ, and god on Earth, declares that he will reside at the Jerusalem Temple.
Sins of Ignorance or presumption.
When Paul spoke of the law, coming because of sin, I think he was referring to those sacrificial laws.
Before sin came, no sacrifice was needed, but when we knew sin, then that sin condemned us, because we would then need to remove that stain of sin, in our flesh, through the blood of animals.
Those blood sacrifices though, never dwelt with the heart and mind. But because we have been salted with fire, and live as a living sacrifice, which HAS to be salted, our conscience is now clear, knowing now, that, those sins of ignorance have been paid.
Also, those ceremonial cleansing, the washing with water, mixed with the ashes of the heifer, is no longer needed, for those bodily functions.
It is those sins of presumption, after receiving the knowledge of the truth, thinking that we can now go and sin, because of His sacrifice, these we need to fear, and be ever mindful of, because there never has been, nor ever will be forgiveness for those premeditated, willful sins.
Num 15:29 Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.
Num 15:30 But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Num 15:31 Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Before sin came, no sacrifice was needed, but when we knew sin, then that sin condemned us, because we would then need to remove that stain of sin, in our flesh, through the blood of animals.
Those blood sacrifices though, never dwelt with the heart and mind. But because we have been salted with fire, and live as a living sacrifice, which HAS to be salted, our conscience is now clear, knowing now, that, those sins of ignorance have been paid.
Also, those ceremonial cleansing, the washing with water, mixed with the ashes of the heifer, is no longer needed, for those bodily functions.
It is those sins of presumption, after receiving the knowledge of the truth, thinking that we can now go and sin, because of His sacrifice, these we need to fear, and be ever mindful of, because there never has been, nor ever will be forgiveness for those premeditated, willful sins.
Num 15:29 Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.
Num 15:30 But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Num 15:31 Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Why the confusion?
i think what many keep missing, almost everything that was taught in the beginning was done face to face. all we have is an extremely small portion of what Paul and the other apostles taught. all we have are a few letters, primarily dealing with issues that had come to their attention. what they actually taught as doctrine would have been Torah. ... even the gentiles would have been taught from Torah. there was NOT a new testament to teach from.
The Day of YHVH
That great and terrible day, the streets will run with blood, when the armies of the world encamp around Jerusalem. And then the battle.
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. Zec 14:2-3
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Then HE returns.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
The First Resurrection
Then HE calls those who alive, to meet those beheaded for His name
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
After the 1000 years with Yeshua, reigning over those who remained, Those who survived the plagues and the vials. The rest of the dead, both good and bad, arise for judgement. It takes 7 months for those remaining to bury the dead. Eze 39:12
And every year, the world is required to come and here the Laws of YHVH, during the Feast of Tabernacles.
Those who did not come out to do battle, who were left in their countries, are those the resurrected and changed saints (1Co 15:52) reign over, with Yeshua, for the thousand years.
These will be required to come, every year, for the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zec 14:16-21)
Only a sixth of the world will survive. Eze 39:2
The last war,
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Those who are not found in the book of life, are cast into the lake of fire, but the others are judge for what they did in their bodies, whether good or bad.
2Co 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. Zec 14:2-3
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Then HE returns.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
The First Resurrection
Then HE calls those who alive, to meet those beheaded for His name
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
After the 1000 years with Yeshua, reigning over those who remained, Those who survived the plagues and the vials. The rest of the dead, both good and bad, arise for judgement. It takes 7 months for those remaining to bury the dead. Eze 39:12
And every year, the world is required to come and here the Laws of YHVH, during the Feast of Tabernacles.
Those who did not come out to do battle, who were left in their countries, are those the resurrected and changed saints (1Co 15:52) reign over, with Yeshua, for the thousand years.
These will be required to come, every year, for the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zec 14:16-21)
Only a sixth of the world will survive. Eze 39:2
The last war,
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Those who are not found in the book of life, are cast into the lake of fire, but the others are judge for what they did in their bodies, whether good or bad.
2Co 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
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